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Old 03-26-2009, 12:36 PM   #1
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Outrage swept across Morocco following a gay association's announcement of a planned seminar on sexual problems.

The seminar entitled "Gender and Sexuality," is set to be held in April and will tackle sensitive issues that people are too shy to discuss for religious and social reasons, said Mariam Benebodallah, media spokesperson for the Moroccan homosexual association Kif Kif.

"The seminar will host experts and lecturers who will present their points of view about how Moroccans can develop their sex life," she told AlArabiya.net."We will tackle the issues at the seminar with extreme caution, and we are not trying to provoke anyone."

Foreign Support Blamed

Moroccan observers said it was unlikely that Moroccan authorities would allow the association to hold such activities and blamed foreign support.

Moroccan sex researcher Hassan Serrat said Moroccan homosexuals are a small group and cannot organize such activities on their own.

"They are definitely getting foreign support especially from British and Spanish gay rights associations," he told AlArabiya.net.

Serrat pointed out that Spanish homosexual associations were outraged at the gay arrests that took place four years ago in the northern Moroccan city of Tetouan and a year ago in the northwestern city of al-Qasr al-Kabir.

"It seems the International Lesbian and Gay Association delegated the homosexuals of Spain to defend those of Morocco," Serrat said.

Kif Kif's spokesperson, however, denied all allegations that the association receives foreign funding and stressed that Moroccan law grants them the right of assembly.

An ongoing battle

Serrat insisted there is an ongoing battle between Moroccan authorities and the association, especially since homosexuals have been attempting to infiltrate Moroccan culture.

"The religious background of Moroccans and their knowledge of the curse of homosexuality has made that hard for them," he said.

He claimed the association managed to gain access to the media when a Moroccan state television show hosted a gay writer and when al-Sabah newspaper interviewed the association's coordinator.

Serrat added that Moroccan authorities are in a very awkward situation since they are torn between European pressure and Morocco's conservative community.

However, Serrat said he expected that the authorities to ban all homosexual activities since they tarnish the image of Muslim Morocco.

"How can Morocco severe ties with Iran in defense of the Sunni faith then overlook homosexuality," he said.

Dr. Mustapha Ben Hamza, chairman of a local council, said it is very unlikely that the authorities will allow such a seminar to take place.

Hamza argued that the seminar announcement was just propaganda as part of homosexuals' attempts to be integrated into Moroccan society.

"They will never be accepted in Moroccan society," he concluded.

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Old 03-26-2009, 05:42 PM   #2
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The website of KifKif is hacked by Ibnou Walid and this is the text he left on the page if the hacked page is removed.

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- كَانُوا لَا يَتَنَاهـَوْنَ عنْ مُنـكـَر فَـعـَلـُوهُ لـَبـِئـسَ مـَا كَـانـُوا يـَفـْعـَلـُونَ - عَنْ حُذَيْفَة بْن الْيَمَان أَنَّ النَّبِيّ صَلَّى اللَّه عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ قَالَ وَاَلَّذِي نَفْسِي بِيَدِهِ لَتَأْمُرُنَّ بِالْمَعْرُوفِ وَلَتَنْهَوُنَّ عَنْ الْمُنْكَر أَوْ لَيُوشِكَنَّ اللَّه أَنْ يَبْعَث عَلَيْكُمْ عِقَابًا مِنْ عِنْده ثُمَّ لَتَدْعُنَّهُ فَلَا يَسْتَجِيب لَكُمْ وَرَوَاهُ التِّرْمِذِيّ عن عَدِيّ بْن عَمِيرَة رَضِيَ اللَّه عَنْهُ يَقُول سَمِعْت النَّبِيّ صَلَّى اللَّه عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ يَقُول إِنَّ اللَّه لَا يُعَذِّب الْعَامَّة بِعَمَلِ الْخَاصَّة حَتَّى يَرَوْا الْمُنْكَر بَيْن ظَهْرَانِيهِمْ وَهُمْ قَادِرُونَ عَلَى أَنْ يُنْكِرُوهُ فَلَا يُنْكِرُونَهُ فَإِذَا فَعَلُوا ذَلِكَ عَذَّبَ اللَّه الْخَاصَّة وَالْعَامَّة ثُمَّ رَوَاهُ أَحْمَد

عَنْ النَّبِيّ صَلَّى اللَّه عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ قَالَ إِذَا عُمِلَتْ الْخَطِيئَة فِي الْأَرْض كَانَ مَنْ شَهِدَهَا فَكَرِهَهَا وَقَالَ مَرَّة فَأَنْكَرَهَا كَانَ كَمَنْ غَابَ عَنْهَا وَمَنْ غَابَ عَنْهَا فَرَضِيَهَا كَانَ كَمَنْ شَهِدَهَا تَفَرَّدَ بِهِ أَبُو دَاوُدَ

قَالَ النَّبِيّ صَلَّى اللَّه عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ يَهْلَك النَّاس حَتَّى يَعْذِرُوا أَوْ يُعْذِرُوا مِنْ أَنْفُسهمْ

- عَنْ أَبِي سَعِيد الْخُدْرِيّ أَنَّ رَسُول اللَّه صَلَّى اللَّه عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ قَامَ خَطِيبًا فَكَانَ فِيمَا قَالَ أَلَا لَا يَمْنَعَنَّ رَجُلًا هَيْبَةُ النَّاس أَنْ يَقُول الْحَقّ إِذَا عَلِمَهُ
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Shame on this stupid Ibn Walid! Religion can drive people crazy and idiot sometimes, it's really sad!
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Due to the intensive activities and to support gay Moroccan and Moroccan foreign to them to come out of homosexuality in the Moroccan society, the untold story of a lot of controversy, prompting the authorities to break her silence, promising that the perpetrators of "offenses against public morality and decency" to prosecute.

Online gay and returned to the forefront with the emergence of gay couples in some of the Moroccan media, saying they were receiving support from foreign parties and some human rights associations and civil society associations of Morocco to break the "wall of silence" them.

Homosexuals say they are active in the Moroccan society "how how" in Arabic means "equal" and an unauthorized association and aim to prevent the criminalization of homosexuality in Morocco.

Under Chapter 489 of the Moroccan Penal Code punishment "by imprisonment of six months to three years and a fine of 200 to 1000 dirhams (24 to 122 dollars) for those who committed an act of homosexual acts with a person of the sex offense was not done more."

The Moroccan authorities recently arrested some 20 people suspected of being gay sexual outskirts of the city of Meknes, about 136 kilometers east of Rabat that brought them together in post-season crown named "Sir Ali bin Amedoc" The beginning seems to exercise rituals and marriages among them.

Moroccan judiciary also issued in 2007 in the Grand Palais in northern Morocco sentences to six people, including a person judicially condemned homosexuality, marriage of another person and four others attended the ceremony of "wedding."

After the silence of not too much to appear in public gay Moroccans early this month, saying that they arrange to meet next month in Marrakesh to discuss their status in order to "take their rights," like a number of Western countries, the Moroccan authorities responded strongly to them.

A statement by the Interior Ministry last week said that "it was noted during the recent elation some of the votes through the media outlets are trying to promote some of the outrageous behavior that is provocative and national public opinion, without taking into account the ethical values of our society and faith."

"The public authorities to confirm its full address in each packet as part of the laws in force any practices contrary to our values and all publications, books and publications aimed at undermining the religious and moral values."

The Moroccan sociologist Abdel-Samad Aldealmi in an interview with Reuters: "Homosexuality has always existed in Morocco and in the world since the presence of human beings on the face of the earth."

The Aldealmi a Professor at the University of Mohammed V in Rabat, "In the past, as in the present, there is a rejection of the phenomenon based on a legitimate jurisprudential. But in spite of rejection behaviors exist on a continuous basis."

He continued by saying that he did not exist, "to adopt a gay identity in the past and not on the individual level or on the collective level, so the cover of indecent practices by the practitioner is guilty and that criminal."

With the mid-seventies of the last century took place when the evolution of the World Health Organization defined homosexuality as "sexual relations between adult and child, or sexual relations between adults, while the violence in the sexual relationship between two people of the same sex called gay sex."

He added that Morocco Aldealmi despite being a Muslim country, it does not live far from these movements, which have become global demand the decriminalization of homosexuality and the regular social movements.

He said that if the Moroccan state is inspired by two sources of the laws of Islam and human rights as they are universally recognized, this "is a conflict between the exporters. Therefore, the position of the awkward position .. Do you respond to human rights or to respond to the Islamic law."

The Besimp Hquaoui a MP from the moderate Islamist Justice and Development that "system-on Morocco affected by the value of what is happening in the West," and attributed the responsibility to "Althvizzat Foreign Affairs and the encouragement that comes from some external organizations that are included in the conduct of personal freedom from the false perspective of freedom the individual. "

She said, "Every time there was a response by the community and the authorities of the phenomenon, but the recurrence of such Kherjat media is one of the strategies of normalization with it."

It considered that the Moroccan regime, "the duty to respond to these provocative behaviors to the feelings of Moroccans."

In a telephone conversation with Reuters from Spain said Samir Brkashi, coordinator of the "how how" active secrecy and outside the law "We are not planning to destroy the values in the society .. we want people to understand that homosexuality is not a satisfactory situation."

"I like me. This is my fate. Iqublna Moroccan society is not. Islamists are terrible campaigns against us and the authorities of the crime of not Tsjnna Nchterha."

"This is a contradiction. Morocco is a transitional stage in the field of human rights and confiscated our right to dissent."

The Besimp Hquaoui "to Morocco reached a good level in the area of freedoms that can be used to the climate in this place."
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Civil society groups committed to addressing the Marrakech Society symposium, "How How"

Saturday, March 28, 2009

Rejected the civil society actors in Marrakech, all last briefing to the President of the Moroccan Association of homosexuals, "How How," and considered that these events represent the number of associations active in Marrakech that was announced by Samir Brkashi resolve the organization of a symposium on 15 April under the title of the next Marrakech Gender and gender''in the culture of Morocco "is absolutely unacceptable, and that it will address the symposium with all available means" to exercise no normalization of relations with these phenomena, the patient, "as stated by the events of" Hsebres. "

In the same context, Abdullah said Describer Wefaq President for Education and Culture in an exclusive statement to "Hsebres", a symposium that the issue of homosexuals in Marrakech, is unacceptable and is unacceptable and can not be tolerated, while considered Atkp Altaik is the head of the Assembly "Tunza for Development" told us that the Declaration of the symposium for homosexuals in Marrakech means a direct provocation to the values and culture and the culture of the city, adding that "our first Kmgarbp make us feel disgusted by such a declaration, which is not something any of us as Muslims because it shows the decay for those who declared the summit," adding " that if the objectives of the "How How" Processing of homosexuals and help them overcome their illness, then all of us, however, the moral and material assistance, but that the objectives of the Assembly is not compatible with our principles and ethics of this Assembly Fsnharb verbal sense. "

And on the steps to be taken by the association in this case Chpt General "How How" holding the symposium in Marrakech, said Abdullah, the President of the Assembly, as well as Describer Atkp Altaik supporters Abdul Latif, head of space JAIDI Regional bay, as well as other associations all agreed to address this symposium and is required to hold protest against the "How How," but it can be up to sit in front of the open can be licensed for the Assembly to hold this symposium, "anomaly" and called Atkp Altaik, especially since it's reputation over Morocco.

The other hand, casting the heads of civil society associations anger Mohamed Kouhlal regional coordinator of the Assembly of "How How" when they described in their statements that no such person can be Kouhlal Mrakeshia rude and defend these practices, because the children of this ancient city known Pettmskhm identity, culture and tolerant Islamic Marjeithm They can not defend the practice of abnormal and sick need to go to psychiatric hospitals, not to the holding of seminars Palmmoos show retardation in its most hideous form, and as the purity of the Kouhlal
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That guy "Samir Brkachi" is very brave, I think that he will win the challenge if they don't murder him!
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No comment - to each his own.
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